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I would refer back to the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. A few adjustments to modernize. And, little stronger statement of individual rights (4th, 5th, 6th and 8th), including the (clearly articulated) right to privacy: Specific definition of a person as a human being (making clear that a legally created (fictional) entity can exist, but only to serve humans, not to coexist as a fellow "person."). Elections would be addressed with set spending financed by the government and limitations made on individual spending. I don't think the structure is wrong; we've just lost sight of the ideals. Which gets me to education, but, I wasn't planning on saving the country when I clicked on the video link... (Great video and salient points, succinctly put; kudos and thanks)
ReplyDeleteHow do you restore or "go back to" that which you never had? If you're not a signatory or party to the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. It's NOT yours to "go back to".
DeleteI see where you are coming from. however, the problem lies within our faulty education. They make our government seem so perfect with its extravagance when it's actually just distraction from corruption. If all these other dictator countries are so harsh...why haven't they revolted? Our foundations are built on lies. anyway, freedom is a number 1 priority. Peace is #2. The only law of the land is regard and disregard. 2 things that are very easy to teach. Next you need food, medicine, and homes so people can have their bare minimum to survive. I present CANNABIS! the #1 everything. Look it up if you get a chance :)
Deleteany structures based on hierarchies and power are doomed to end up un-democratic, as we are now seeing in the united states, with a government that can best be described as 'rogue,' or 'war criminals,' if you were being a bit more accurate.
ReplyDeletepower and freedom cannot co-exist. if one has power, another loses freedom. the basis of our new systems MUST be equality, co-operation, freedom, justice and abundance for all.
only the belief that it cannot be done stops us from demanding these ideals. but what would happen if we all did raise our voices? only one way to find out.
05.11.13 - care to make a difference?
peace & love & unity
Big ol' agree here. And I think the only feasible way to do it is to develop quantum computers to make un-hackcable quantum networks(which ARE now a reality - use of them has been publicly confirmed by IBM, Lockheed Martin, Google, and the NSA, at least), and then relocate government to the internet, so that everyone has one voice and can vote on anything they want.
DeleteRepresentation is what establishes power positions in government. It was necessary in the past when concensus could not be quickly reached, but the internet moots that issue in all but the most dire situations, like defense from invading forces or attacks. A vastly reduced military should be maintained, but most of congress, the juducial branch, and the administrative positions in the executive branch should be done away with, and that power returned to the people.
I agree with both of you pretty much entirely. It's funny how everyone can vote and like things on facebook and we can all communicate and mix ideas RIGHT HERE. But, we haven't mobilized this technology. Anyway, I believe we should be like the Swiss/(New)Old Rome with our military. Everyone is strapped, trained, and ready but, they are also trained in peace negotiation. You always need the bare minimums covered though and we don't in America. We have 3x as much food as the world needs with millions going hungry. We have 1 persons closet able to clothe everyone and his garage pollutes the world everyday. Cannabis will fix all this as a #1 medicine, food, textile, etc. It's cheap and the most prized thing you could find. It makes money obsolete and essentially makes our only job to thrive and live and go farther.
DeleteI think we could 'crowdsource' our democracy. You'd have to be careful about this, as it could devolve into mob rule, people could irresponsibly vote themselves handouts, and then vote not to pay for them. Voting maybe shouldn't be a right, but true citizenship should be earned. You'd have to be a contributing member of society, and actually informed about the issues you're voting on. This can be done, just look at all the informed people commenting on issues out there on the internet, the redditors who can research and find out about anything. One thing is for sure, the system is corrupt, because it is a top-down system that empowers individuals at the top, and that power corrupts absolutely. Crowdsourcing would be a decentralized, more organic solution
ReplyDeleteMostly agree. With quantum computers now a reality, un-hackable networks can be developed. All those elected officials' slaries and benefits could go a long way toward providing free internet and massively subsidized computers to everyone in the country, at which point most of what they do could be accomplished by the people, online.
DeleteI don't think we need to worry much about how informed the populace is because statistical results from crowdsourced information has indicated, repeatedly, that a crowd of people is always more informed than any one person, no matter how expert they think they are. Everyone should be allowed to vote on whatever they want. Wisdom will emerge from the crowd, and if we do make bad decisions, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves, which will expidite resolutions tremendously. We will quickly learn from any mistakes we make, and governance will quickly become a much smoother process.
And, most importantly, we could do away with positions of power, so that people will be much less likely to become corrupt.
Arrest and punish the perpetrators of 9/11. In great numbers. That would be the first meaningful step. PUNISH THE GUILTY FIRST. Then we'll worry about your favorite utopian futurist fantasy.
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DeleteEvidence lets of know that they lied about how it happened, but it doesn't allow us to prove who actually did it. All we know, based on the evidence, is that it was a controled demolition, involving at least some government personnel, and that it was capitalized on to ennact unconstitutional laws. That doesn't tell us who did it. This government is always ready to take advantage of any disaster, but while I suspect they were involved, suspicion alone is not enough to convict, unless we would fashion ourselves after the existing regime, who seems to think it is.
DeleteNo you are right we can't prove who was behind 911 but if it wern't for the powers that be the investigation would have gone to the root of it . There are so many unanswered questions like building 7 how could it have gone down and the pentagon where was the plane pieces it's BS . If it had been a real terror attack all of our questions would have been answered. So if that doesn't scream guilt i don't know what does.
DeleteIf i had to bet my last dollar on a guilty entity, who was in power then and still in power now with the most to gain from the outcome of 3000 dead people that day was the federal reserve bank they wanted to control the opium trade . very sad.
Deleteahem...the only people with access to all three buildings, like they would've needed, were our government. Steel melts at 2700 degrees while Jet Fuel burns at 1500(the weed or actual jet fuel...it's the same cause it's fire.) Steel needs thermite. Which, while it appears naturally occasionally, it almost always has to be made by nano technology. Into a gloss paint. It has its own oxidizer as well so it never needs oxygen to burn. Now, this nano technology paint is applied to where it will be needing to explode and destroy quickly. WTC7 contained all the history of ENRON that the Bush administration owned billions of stock in. WTC 1 and 2 were a distraction from the Pentagon where the budget analysis office was killed. They were looking for the 2.3 trillion dollars missing from our treasury. The planes weren't even scheduled to fly that day and one of them had been out of service for years. there were no scheduled flights that day of those planes and no people would have been on them. NIST did the investigation. The FBI helped with clean up. NIST, knowing the terrorists threatened them with box cutters and bombs didn't find it important to search for bomb residue. So, they didn't find any. The FBI cleaned up and sent all the scraps to China. However, independent physicists got their hands on some dust and found thermite. Some independent German computer geeks got a hold of some computer chips and found information of an inside job. The Owner had just changed his insurance plan that summer to cover terrorist attacks and made a huge profit off the attack. Funny, because if I were to change my insurance to cover fire and then it caught on fire I would be thoroughly investigated. Again, they had BOX CUTTERS and overthrew an entire multiple planes and the military trained pilots. Al Qaeda was/is an insurgence group created by the FBI during desert storm. They are the Syrian Rebels now that we are giving Ak's to. The FBI orchestrated 9/11 and then dropped the plan the last day and allowed Al Qaeda to finish it.
DeleteGovernment will continue to exist until it is no longer necessary. The absence of government is anarchy; not autonomy. Absence of someone else controlling your mind does not auto-magically give you critical thinking, so it’s more logical, reasonable, and rational to learn how to learn anything for ourselves, and thereby become autonomous, whereby external mind control- or government- is no longer necessary.
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or is he having lots of problems with the audio lately. It quickly goes into just one channel. A previous video did the same.
ReplyDeleteAs Derrick Jensen has so eloquently put it, "We're fucked". He refers to the gravity of the ecocide committed upon the planet by modern civilization. (If you need more than two words, look at "What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire" (2007) or "The Crisis of Civilization" (2011) or guymcpherson.com (now) to see how bad off the planet is.)
ReplyDeleteSo let's suppose our revolution succeeded today and everyone, down to the last neocon, became a Buddha, some kind of completely enlightened being. Could we revert the ecological damage? I don't know. But I do rather strongly think that nothing less than the complete dismantling of industrial civilization is about the only hope we have to avoid near term extinction of us and about another million or so species out there.
I have shared this because I think it's a well-timed video. Many people are tending toward the idea of attacking infrastructure and particularly offending individuals. I agree with the psychology behind most of the reasoning you deliver, but there's a key aspect that I think is overlooked and which makes infrastructure attacks worth consideration.
ReplyDeleteYou mention that in order for a revolution to succeed, people need to be on the same page, and that the best way to do this is to first spend time individually discussing problems and solutions with the people around us. I've been doing exactly this for years - doing the work of looking up and citing specific legal documents that take away specific rights, and showing people the anectodal use of those policies to illustrate that it is not only possible for them to be abused, but that it is already happening (all with a tempered enthusiasm, so as not to seem too irate before they are sufficiently worked up themselves) - and I've noticed several dire problems with that approach. First is that each of us out there discussing things with our neighbors is not discussing the same things. So, rather than having a bunch of individuals with different ideas for solutions, we'll have a bunch of groups with different ideas. The corporate media will not allow great numbers of us to become cohesive about problems or solutions.
Then second problem is that most people are not sufficiently inconvenienced by our government's and corporations' crimes to be motivated into action even once they understand the crimes, and most of the people who ARE so inconvenienced, are behind bars. The rest still get great deals at Walmart and are content to continue as they always have. Therein lies the most important aspect of infrastructure attack that I think you're overlooking - it's ability to unite people in common misery. As messed up as that may sound, there is certitude in such a unity because even the media cannot convince you that there is food in your belly when there is not. People cannot be manipulated out of the unifying bonds of poverty. And when their bellies start to rumble, they WILL get up off the couch.
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DeleteWe've seen that even flagrant examples of government and corporate crime will not galvanize the people into action (indefinite detention, Citizens United, GMO labeling, and NSA snooping without probable cause are all poignant examples). Many are angry, but not enough to incur real change. And that is by design. When the people become cohesive, the government and corporations placate, distract, reward or punish us. We were becoming cohesive about gay rights, so they gave us that. We were becoming cohesive about GMO labeling, so they pretended to give us that (although it's a bate and switch because they reduced FDA standards and labeling to the point of uselessness anyway). They are using Trayvon & the repeal of part of the voting rights act to stir racial tensions, the farm bill & food stamps to stir tension between the middle and lower financial classes, Egypt to stir religious tensions, and abortion rights to stir the gender battle. If we become cohesive about any of those things, they'll make a token concession, or distract with some other news, or another tactic. It's a more nuanced process than what I'm describing, but they have it down to a science, and we don't, so they WILL be able to manipulate most of us (evidence of this is how almost half the country votes Dem each year, and almost half votes Rep, canceling each other's votes out. That shows the level of their precision in psychological manipulations). Rampant poverty is the only thing they can't cure with psychology. That's why infrastructure attacks are imparative. That's the way to bring people to common grounds. When everyone's at the bottom, they all have to climb up, and the people and policies being used to prevent that will be thrown into sharp relief. People will have to focus on the same things at that point - the things that are keeping them alive, and the things that are preventing it.
I do think the point you make about keeping the public will in our favor is imparative. And so I caution any engaged in infrastructure attacks to take all precautions to prevent harm to individuals, and attempt to get your own story and motivations into internet news, along with the precautions you took to ensure the safety of persons, all Anonymously of course. And don't try to tackle something huge that will increase your chances of getting caught. Focus on many small events. There are others out there doing the same. It will add up.
Your thoughts?
Free clean energy. Decimate the oil industry, starve the foundation of the corruption in the system, help our environment and step forward in intellectual and technological evolution.
ReplyDeleteOk, so I hit pause and I'm thinking up my comment...
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that revolutions must be started with plans referring to what's to happen after their success; else they fail, and the revolutionaries end up dead (like the Che, Trotsky...).
Our current political world is based on bipartisanism, through a polarisation of society that's been devised to "oppose" individualists and collectivists, people who believe personal effort and strength must be promoted, and those who believe that pooling resources and subordinating themselves to the collective is the right thing to do.
I dare say that both are right, and that thence the bipartisan conundrum of politics is inherently skewed.
Over the past few decades there has been a "novel" political movement that has arisen, it's the ecological movement.
We've been used to the old red/blue opposition, the red "liberals" and the blue "conservatives", I present to you the green ecologists. Ecology is a word that is built up from ancient Greek, out of these two words: "oikos", meaning "house", and "logos", meaning "knowledge", or "wisdom". Therefore ecology means "knowledge of the house". The house is planet Earth, obviously...
Now let's look at another word, "economy"... Economy is built up out of the words "oikos" and "nomia": oikos means "house" as we've already seen; "nomia" means "administration", "running of". So "economy" means "the running of the house", "administration of the house".
We have been intent on expanding the economy while ignoring the ecology. If our planet was indeed a house, it would require severe cleaning up, because we have proven to be inefficient administrators of our own house, letting dirt and filth pile up in the corners, under the carpets, on the furniture, basically fucking the place up and making it inhabitable in the long term for anything save perhaps cockroaches.
We have, however, improved on our knowledge of the house. We now know enough things about the environment, the biosphere, how we interact with it, to actually be capable of transforming this filthy house into something nice and clean again. So!
Wouldn't it be time for us to run our own house properly, thanks to our wisdom...?
I agree and see where you are coming from. Definitely, Earth is our home. However, I'm afraid you are missing the 1 thing that would fix it. Cannabis! It cures the ground of radiation and it is the #1 food, medicine, textile, etc. My comment is below yours if you're interested. Look up Cannabis if you don't know :)
DeleteMe, Well, I would put it plain and simple. Be deliberate in what you do but, do not disregard others. We are all gifted raw and natural materials in which we can work together to expand into great tomorrows. Cannabis will work as a basis for all our needs (textile, food, medicine, etc.). Freedom is priority #1. Peace is priority #2. Growth is priority #3. As for taxes, they are not mandatory (not that they are now anyway...), they will be donation to the land. You will be given a form with ALL the things our profits can and may be sent to. however, you will present your own percentages and your own amounts to the subjects YOU wish to fund. Whether it be war, schools, roads, medicine, etc. Money is obsolete. We will use our talents and our passions to be inspired. Work is work. We will have to do it regardless. But, as long as we have food, medicine, and shelter. There is no reason for excess greed. Other policies will be adopted from countries whom have exercised them successfully for a number of years. Meaning, all homes and families will be equipped and trained properly with firearms and gardens are a community effort to keep the food supply up. Do not disregard. Regard your fellow beings. Regardless.
ReplyDeleteLook at Iceland . It does work !
ReplyDeleteRemoving the old government and installing a new working one are NOT the same action, not the same thing, and are two separate battles for operation. I understand the context of the video, but if people are waiting for unity and agreement before taking action on corruption and evil deeds, you will fall way short of change and action. In addition, the comparison to making a new government opposed to just simply following the one we have with leaders who actually follow the current law and make alterations to restore good faith freedoms over true dangers to our land and citizenry is assumptive and preposterous. In addition, a presumption that the freemasons who designed the original constitution (which did not include a bill of rights) were true and moral people that we should return to is quite ignorant in our current time. After all, these people were slave owners, kept women under thumb, and had secret societies, wealth, religion, and factions ruling over equality and law. ...hell, they made their own up. Backtracking on what we should do opposed to what could be surprises me and sounds like a feather for the same bird of either wing. Change is change; not wait and see to agree first. separate from designing a "new country" or preserving the one we have is totally different from stopping those in power now for your safety and humanity. Period. I mean really dude, wake yourself up.
ReplyDeleteThere are a few answers to what systems we put up. First off we can do a lot ourselves. This is what we do - we ask to see the two documents that make a mortgage legal before we pay another cent. The lenders of our mortgages cannot supply these two documents. If a million or more of us did not pay our mortgages, the banksters would be in a spin. Most of us shouldn't be paying our mortgages because of all the fraud that's been going on with securitizations etc. We demand that Congress install public campaign financing and that they call an election within 2 months (no dithering) Other things we can do is use a community currency or an online currency (see rcredits.org), buy locally produced food and items, don't buy new buy used as much as possible. StormCloudsGathering says everything right so far! Yes we need to be calm that is so true. And we should look forward to playing with the powers a little, cat and mouse style. Calm. Happy...
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